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Rapporteur: M. Rothstein
S. Anderson:
- scatter plot comparison of friction velocity from bulk aerodynamic and through direct covariance shows that the technology is here to utilize the direct measurement of friction velocity.
- emphasized the need for inclusion of the ocean current velocity . . . typical speeds in the range of 25 em/sec . . . failure to include results in 5-10% error in momentum flux.
Discussion:
- debate over whether estimation of U* accounts for ocean currents.
- M. Bourassa pointed out that measurement of currents at 5m depth may not represent speeds closer to surface.
F. Bradley:
- emphasized the interconnection of turbulent, radiative, and fresh water fluxes.
- COARE bulk algorithm require all as input.
- fresh water flux affects the stratification of mixed layer, depth, dynamics and surface current (very important if considering diurnal cycle) and contributes directly to sensible heat.
- highlighted the poor accuracy of in-situ rainfall measurement due to spatial variability and limitations of instrumentation -- ship location reflecting wind distortion etc.
Discussion:
- there was a question of whether averaging rainfall over several storms improved things.
- P. Webster reiterated the importance of including fresh water in the upper ocean.
- general discussion of goals of workshop to concentrate on turbulent fluxes.
C. Fairall:
- presented a background on measurements from the beginning of system development in 1984, which emphasized inertial-dissipation method, to current development of the 3rd generation system.
- gave a list of basic instrumentation:
- sonic anemometer/thermometer
- aspirated mean T/RH
- floating near-surface ocean T
- some cruises include rawinsondes, laser ceilometer, doppler wind profiler.
- presented a list of cruises with data available . . . acknowledged a "spotty" coverage of locations/conditions.
- demonstrated that through proper sampling, you can average the data from multiple cruises.
- noted that each cruise uses its own format for data collection/reporting making the combination of cruises difficult.
Discussion:
- T. Liu - inquired about efforts to coordinate data
- Rossow suggested attempting to coordinating some of the data and using that to demonstrate the difficulty and need for funding.
P. Taylor:
- any new flux product must be verified over a range of climate conditions.
- zonal means can be very misleading.
- good in-situ reference measurements are needed.
- verification must take the error characteristics of each data set into account.
- potential surface flux reference data:
- "flux" buoys which measure all variables needed to estimate the fluxes (IMET) good data, but few sites.
- "operational" met. buoys (TAO, Triton, NOBC) worse data for longer periods, but often coastal sites.
- air-sea interaction experiments (TOGA-COARE) good data, very restricted in coverage.
- quality controlled voluntary observing ship data (VOS) poor data, good coverage in restricted regions, continual availability.
- Future?
- buoys that determine fluxes directly.
- improved VOS subset.
- advocated the use of all in-situ references use as much as possible.
Discussion:
- Rossow - questioned whether ship data should be used.
- Taylor - if errors are understood, some use can be made of it.
R. Weller:
- summarized the improvements made in reducing the errors in observed heat fluxes . . . a chart indicated errors in the early 80s as large as 200 w/m2 for total heat flux and present error values under 10 w/m2.
- announced that, although buoy coverage was limited, there was a project underway to coordinate data and distribute it over the web.
- emphasized the need for a partnership to plan where observations are needed.
Discussion:
- Beljaars - pointed out the difficulty in understanding the space-time variability.
- M. Bourassa - added that assimilation of buoy data into GCM's don't work well.
- P. Taylor - stated that perhaps GCM's shouldn't use the buoy data, but rather this data should be used to verify the GCM's.
J. Hare:
- gave a description of some of the latest instrumentation, including:
- sonic anemometer with strapdown navigation
- IR and Oak Ridge hygrometers, CO2 sensor
- K Gill-system with "spray finger," dry/wet bulb
- in-situ SST thermistor
- TSK wave-height recorder
- noted that there was still great difficulty making in-situ measurements during high wind speed conditions and precipitation
- discussed the rationale for measuring wave height in helping with this problem.
S. Planton:
- stressed the importance of using in-situ measurements made at the mesoscale
- in addition to FASINEX and TOGA-COARE, two recent experiments satisfy these requirements.
- SEMAPHORE in the Azores region
- aircraft, buoy and ship data 10/7/93-11/16/93
- atmospheric analysis (Giordani 1998) and oceanic analyses done on in-situ data
- CATCH (oceanic component of FASTEX)
- has allowed re-evaluation at high-wind speeds
- NW Atlantic (47oN, 40o W) 1/97-2/97
- allowed analysis during significant ocean front and active atmospheric perturbations
- datasets coming soon include:
- FETCH
- concentrates on conditions of limited fetch
- West Mediterranean 2/98-3/98
- EQUALANT
- aimed at oceanic circulation in tropical Atlantic 7/99-8/99.
Panel Discussion:
- J. Curry - can we fix the problem of making accurate measurements of flux parameters in high wind speed and/or precipitating conditions.
- C. Fairall - thinks we can get there via "closed-path" instruments.
- P. Taylor - thought the French were having some success with microwave instruments?
- T. Liu - was wondering if any thought was given to just measure the fluxes directly or if we will always be reliant upon bulk algorithms.
- C. Fairall - felt it was tough to beat the bulk methods at this time, but the future may be different.
- J. Curry - suggested a need for both types of measurements.
- C. Clayson - thought the variability would be difficult to measure without in-situ measurement of parameters.
- M. Bourassa - pointed out that accelerating/decelerating ships will bias wind speed measurements and that some means by which to average the readings was needed to get the true wind speed . . . was wondering if ship maneuvers were recorded/reported.
- P. Webster - again brought up the issue of inclusion of fresh water flux and debate ensued over the goals of the workshop.
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